Home arrow History arrow Dock Breast, 1955 to 1956

LOGIN

Live Users

No users online
 
 
 
Advertisement

Dock Breast, 1955 to 1956 PDF Print E-mail
Written by Administrator   
Monday, 23 July 2007

Between 1955 and 28 May 1956 the club premises were the Dock Breast, East India Adjacent to the Marine Bar ( now known as the Waterfront ). The building was demolished a number of years ago and the vehicle compound of Greenock Police station is now in this site. This hall had previously been used as the Sailors Rest and also as the meeting place of the St Laurence Boys club. The conditions within the premises must have been basic in comparison with those enjoyed by members in today's clubrooms. An indication of this is apparent in the committee minutes of 2 August 1955 where it is minuted:-
" Tables and chairs, we agreed to make advances towards getting furniture into the hall as quickly as possible."

The first licensed bar was in these premises, on Thursday 9 June 1955 the committee agreed that they give an order to Robt. Younger, Brewers and open the bar on Saturday 11 June at 12 noon until 2pm. And from 6pm to 9pm in the evening. The Firth bar has been described s 'a Mcauley's bread board covered by a white cloth on top of 2 beer barrels'. There was no running water at the time and glasses were washed in a bucket. Members of the committee served behind the bar. At the committee meeting of 20 November this was discussed and minuted as follows:-
"W Lamont spoke about the filthy condition of glasses. Chairman replied, that early next week, we should be getting the sink installed, and after that was fixed, we should get more cleanliness, and regarding dirty rim on tumblers it was explained that this was cased by drawing tumblers along the shelf under the counter. Chairman asked, would a piece of oilcloth or linoleum not be the solution to this."

No woman were allowed to enter the club at that time and this extended to include the employment of bar staff with no female bar staff allowed. Bar taking in the period from 11 June to 10 July were £570.

At its meeting of 28 July 1955 the following is stated in the minutes

"It was agreed by the committee present that we deal with Tennent's. This was in connection with putting in piping when we would have a proper bar in."

This stated a 40 year association with Tennent Caledonian Breweries which has extended unbroken to this day. This relationship has been advantageous to both Tennent's and to the club. Tennent's got a good and faithful customer for the past forty years and the Celtic F.C. Supporters' Club, Greenock has been able to finance much of its expansion and refurbishment through low interest loans, tied to the sale of beer from Tennent's.

With the move to Dock Breast and the successful application for a drinks licence the club was becoming more popular with members and visitors. The committee decided that the club get a paid doorman and clubmaster and on 27 September 1955 Frank McConnell was appointed doorman and Joe Gavin was appointed clubmaster. These two appointments indicate the growing success of the club and the need to employ individuals to work for the club rather than rely wholly on the work of members of the committee. Another indicator of the success is the fact that at its meeting of 5th September 1955 the committee was advised that the drawings from the bar since it started were £3584.

The club must also have been very popular with non members and this was causing some concern to the committee and the following is minuted for the committee meeting held in July 1955:-
"J Monaghan put up a motion that we should take in 150 people and make them B members at 2/6 per year. This was to save any bother with visitors and to issue these B members with another card different from the one issued to the members of the travel club. These members would only be allowed into the premises to have a refreshment and to participate in dominoes, darts etc., but would not be allowed onto the buses traveling to matches or allowed into meetings of any description under the jurisdiction of the Celtic Supporters Assn. This was seconded by W McLenaghan there was no amendment."

As can be seen 'B' members were very much second class members of the club whose only benefit was being allowed to use the clubrooms.

At that time there were 135 members of the travel club with 127 lifting Scotia tickets costing 6/- (30p) per week. Sick members were free of all commitments while off sick. The members were also paying in additional contribution of 1/-(5p) per week in order that the club could build up funds. When the club was on a more secure financial footing £2-10/-(£2.50) was eventually repaid to those members who had paid this levy. It has been suggested that James Clabby and Joseph Monaghan put forward the idea of using Scotia tickets as a way of funding the travel club. The Scotia tickets system was a lottery linked to the first letters of the tips detailed in the Scottish Daily Express by the racing tipster know as Scotia. If the letters matched up with the tips then a cash prize was won with the travel club keeping the balance. The tickets were the same style as those still used by St Joesph's Church.

This idea of introducing the Scotia tickets was not universally accepted by all the members as each member had to guarantee the sale of fourteen tickets. The cost of these fourteen tickets was three times the cost of the a bus trip to Glasgow and a number of members felt that it was unfair to those who would be unable to sell these tickets, it should be noted that the equivalent cost today, expressed as a proportion of average earnings is around £15 per week. A number of members left the club over this issue as they felt it placed them in a situation where they themselves would be faced with paying the full cost of the tickets. Many of those who left the club at that time eventually formed a supporters club registered with Celtic F.C., known as the Regent Celtic Supporters Club as it left from the Wellpark area. As can be imagined this created some animosity between the Celtic F.C. Supporters' Club, Greenock and those who left. Our club managed to survive this schism and continued to support Celtic Football Club and organise recreational and social activities for its members.

The demand for membership of the club at this time must have been similar to that currently experienced and the committee decided that a system of prioritising various categories of applicants should be instituted. At its meeting of 4 March 1956 the committee agreed that priority for membership of the club should be as follows:- members sons and brothers; boy members who have reached 18 years; new applications at present on waiting list; ex members who are now B members; ex members.

The earliest copy of the Rules and Bye-Laws of the Celtic F.C Supporters' Club, Greenock which has been available was published in April 1955 and is notarised by Hugh D. Trainner, President and John Cannon, Honorary Secretary. There may be an earlier published version but this one coincides with the move to Dock Breast when the club was in the process of getting licensed premises wholly owned by the club.

The held the Dock Breast premises on a short term lease from the Harbour Trust and during October of 1955 officials from the Harbour Trust inspected the premises. An engineer advised the club not to spend a lot of money on the proposed bar, that it would be advisable to get some temporary arrangement built around the bar as it stands and get water installed. It was obvious that the lease was not to be extended and that the club once again were on the lookout for new premises.

Indeed during December of 1955 the committee were informed that the premises were being offered to Lamont's Shipbuilding and Engineering Company. Tennent's had agreed to give a full financial backing to the club when a new home was found and the committee looked at a number of options for new premises. These included the former St. Laurence's Chapel house in Dellingburn Street and a former lodging house in William Street, it was found that the lodging house was to be demolished. The West Burn Billard Hall was also mentioned but it was agreed by the committee that the Billiard hall be made the "last alternative". The club also went so far as placing an advertisement in the Greenock Telegraph for premises but got no replies. An unsuccessful bid was placed for the Temperance Institute at the corner of Argyll Street and West Stewart Street, unsurprisingly given that the premises would be used as a licensed club, this bid was not accepted even though it was the best offer at £3500. John S Thomson, a local businessman, purchased this property for a sum considerably less than that offered by the Celtic F.C. Supporters' Club, Greenock. The search for new premises proved difficult and the Committee were forced to reconsider their "last alternative". The West Burn Billiard Hall had been valued at $4500 but he club estimated that an additional £2000 would be required for repairs. An offer of £3000 was made for these premises but this was turned down. The club then looked at Brown Bakers premises in West Blackhall Street and offered £3000 for them, this bid was also unsuccessful. At its meeting of the 16th May 1955 the committee were informed that the billiard hall had been purchased by a Mr Lepick and he offered the top part of the building to the club for £3200 after much discussion in the committee William Ferrie seconded by T Fulton moved the club go after the billiard hall there was an amendment to this motion that we do not go after the billiard hall from John Cannon seconded by Willian Docherty. The motion was carried by the chairman's casting vote after a 'tie' 4 votes each.

The lease to the premises at Dock Breast was terminated on 28 May 1956

 
< Prev   Next >
 

Copyright © 2007 Greenock Celtic Supporters Club
Designed & Hosted by Media-Slave.co.uk